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Ron Williams

Sleep deprivation at night when ambient noise levels are low and when wind in the 'wrong' direction - relentless low frequency swoosh, swoosh, swoosh. Low frequency noise was used as torture by the Germans in the 1940s. I now have had to resort to taking sleeping tablets. Flicker of the shadow of the rotating blades means blinds have to be closed - even in fair weather.
These problems definitely have a psychological effect.
Visual effect - due to the mills being contructed as 'skyline development' will definitely affect property value.
Problems started when windfarm was commissioned in summer of 2007.

Added: 2007/12/28 00:49:38 Last Edited: 2008/01/01 16:54:04

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Member #3

Ron,

How far are you from the turbines and in what direction compass bearing wise?

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2007/12/30 17:18:14

Member #4

Hallo fellow wind turbine victim!
I agree, I agree, I agree, with everything you have said!!!!!
And you are not alone!!!! My name is Jane Davis (google me as Jane Davis, Wind Farm) and you will see I have the same problems as you!
I am doubly intrigued as I think we have the same developer as well.Wind Prospect - who sometimes operate as Cumbria Wind Farms?????

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2007/12/31 17:07:33

Mike Hulme

Hello Ron, (Hi Jane)
I have stayed and experienced the totally unacceptable noise problems at Jane's and I'm fearful of being in a similar position when an approved wind farm is built too close to homes in Mid Devon.
It would be helpful to know of your experiences with the local Council and the developer. Have you made a formal complaint? What is being done to address the noise problems?
Here in Mid Devon we believe that the Noise Conditions applied to the planning approval are deeply flawed and consequently will not provide neighbours with any protection should we find ourselves in the nightmare scenario that Jane and yourself are in.
We are attempting to address these injustices through the courts - details of which can be found on our web site:
http://www.denbrookvalley.co.uk/2.html
Anyone interested and concerned please contact me through the web site. Mike

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2008/01/12 11:02:45

Ron Williams

Hello Mike,

Have written to Local Planning Authority chief - awaiting reply. Then I was going to contact the developer.

Hope your legal challenge is going OK - could start something interesting!

Regards,

Ron Williams

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2008/01/22 11:17:02

Member #4

Ron, we are 930 m, and SSW, so we have the worst audible noise when we are directly down wind, but most directions cause a noise of some type.
We also have significant, measured, low frequency - so much so that we have, as you probly know had to abandon our home...........
Our health issues are also being investigated.

I am happy for you to email me directly if you would like,

best wishes,
Jane

Your developer is the same and they seem to be responsible for most of the worst in the UK!

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2008/01/22 11:53:07

Complaints (1) Add Complaint

John Ferguson

Dear Ron
I sent the following e-mail to Wind Prospect and received the answer below. You can see how they are trying to wriggle out of the noise problem. It is essential that you complain to the local Environmental Health Officer, to Wind Prospect and to the wind farm owners so that enquirers can no longer be fobbed off with this type of response.
Have you heard from Local Planning Authority chief yet?
Regards
John Ferguson

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Dear Wind Prospect
I would appreciate your comments on how you manage to square the claim in your Farmer's brochure that :
a well designed windcluster ensures there will
not be any noise nuisance. Even if you were
to stand amongst the turbines, a normal
conversation can be conducted
with the press reports of the misery caused by noise in the vicinity of your Wharrels Hill wind turbines. Click here: Times & Star
Yours sincerely
John Ferguson (Dr)

And received this reply:
Dear Dr Ferguson
Thank you for your enquiry. As far as I am aware, Mr Williams who is quoted in the Times & Star article has not complained to his local Environmental Health officer, to Wind Prospect, nor to the current owners of the Wind farm which is Wharrels Hill LLP.
I am also able to report that local community visitors to the Wharrels Hill wind farm have found it quite possible to have a normal conversation whilst stood amongst the turbines.
Yours sincerely
Mark Wilson
Mark Wilson
Corporate Affairs and Marketing Manager
Wind Prospect Group
7 Berkeley Square | Bristol | BS8 1HG
t: +44 (0)117 910 5963 | f: +44 1444 441866 | m: +44 (0)7920 589035

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Ron Williams

Hello John,

I have not visited this site for quite a while so to answer some of your questions: Yes I have contacted the local EHO - a year ago - nothing been done as they wanted to install monitoring equipment in the house. I said "OK, how long can you leave it here?" reply "24 hours". Therefore that was a no-goer as I can't predict when the mills will be in the 'right' direction for the noise to affect me. At the same time I wrote to the Chief Planning Officer and had NO REPLY!!!!!!!!
I complained to Wind Prospect and they sent out their engineer who videoed(?_ the flicker and appreciated that we had a big problem, but with regard to the noise he stated that there was nothing they could do.

So that is the current position.

Look forward to your reply.

Ron.

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2009/02/07 14:02:00

John Ferguson

Ron
So sorry to hear that nothing has been done to bring you some relief from the noise & flicker problems which you have been experiencing. This, sadly, is not an uncommon experience. The developers will say and do whatever is necessary to obtain approval for erection of the turbines and then will do as little as possible to overcome any problems. The whole thing is driven by the vast amounts of money which will accrue to the developer and their financial backers. It's worth checking the wording of the approval given for the Bothel turbines as conditions are usually set which require the operator to put in hand measures which will reduce flicker [such as turning off the offending turbine(s)] at the times flicker is likely to occur. Similarly it is often set down what measurements will take place following any noise complaints, and if the noise exceeds the levels set by the ETSU-R-97 guidelines you have the evidence to take your case further. If you have difficulty in tracking down these conditions I suggest you have a face-to-face with your EHO to find out what conditions were actually set on the approval to build and how these are to be put into action in your case. If you have further problems I suggest you contact you MP.
John

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2009/02/07 15:27:11

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